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	<title>Comments on: V is for Vader &#8211; Rewriting the Star Wars Prequels</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>I agree with you to a point on the prequels. However I personally found entertainment value in the films despite their flaws. 1) Ewan McGregor and Ian McDiarmid unquestionably gave the best performances. 2) Natalie Portman is HOT. 3) The lightsaber duels were fantastic, and brilliantly choreographed, and 4) Anything where you have Christopher Lee playing a villain can&#039;t be THAT bad. So call me crazy, but overall I enjoyed the films.

As far as the Original Trilogy, the one thing I am unhappy with is ever since the special editions, it was says 1997 as the production year in the end credits. If anything needs to be changed in the worst way - that does. It should still say 1977, 1980, and 1983 respectively. Agreed?

Be that as it may, the prequels were nowhere near as AWFUL as that last Indiana Jones movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you to a point on the prequels. However I personally found entertainment value in the films despite their flaws. 1) Ewan McGregor and Ian McDiarmid unquestionably gave the best performances. 2) Natalie Portman is HOT. 3) The lightsaber duels were fantastic, and brilliantly choreographed, and 4) Anything where you have Christopher Lee playing a villain can&#8217;t be THAT bad. So call me crazy, but overall I enjoyed the films.</p>
<p>As far as the Original Trilogy, the one thing I am unhappy with is ever since the special editions, it was says 1997 as the production year in the end credits. If anything needs to be changed in the worst way &#8211; that does. It should still say 1977, 1980, and 1983 respectively. Agreed?</p>
<p>Be that as it may, the prequels were nowhere near as AWFUL as that last Indiana Jones movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Michaelvincentmusic</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 04:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are superb ideas you&#039;re floating for remakes.  Your definitions and depth of understanding of the nature of evil would make a seminary professor proud (in a good way).  The inclusion of ideas from V for V and the nazi connex&#039;n is brilliant, I believe.  &#039;Something&#039; has to inspire the next generation of film-makers to include something of substance to these films.

PS - I actually had this dream one nite after having an online discussion with a friend about the whole SW-6 pkg.  Someone had remade the entire series into one 3.75 hr film, (with an Intermission, like the old David Leen (Zhivago; L&#039; of Arabia; and DeMille Bible epics).

Anyway the entire film was in black and white, and very grainy, throughout.  The music was the same; the images suddenly cleared up as soon as they went into space (where everything was in color, oddly enough  - and again, these aren&#039;t suggestions for the remakes - this was just my REM-sleep dream).

The film in my dream was simply called &quot;Vader,&quot; as my friend and I were talking about Lucas&#039; original working title for SW was Star Wars: The Tragedy of Darth Vader; and begins with him barely crawlng up out of the edge of the lava river on Mustufar; having already had a suit of some sort on for protection against the lava (he was there for other reasons I don&#039;t recall, now); but the molten liquid seeped through when he fell in.  He&#039;s later rescued, and the mask is put on him.  When he is told he has to wear the suit, now, for life, he is beside himself with rage, and becomes a truly imposing figure, and asks formally to be given the name Vader, so as to forget his former life as Anakin Skywalker  - especially since that name was already given to him when he joined the Sith earlier, but was only a ceremonial name, (like at a baptism).  But he wants it for real, so-as to be all the more imposing.

Vader was seduced earlier; before the lava-river incident; not by fear of losing a loved one, but by his inordinate ambition combined with his already enhanced gifted skills.  He was smart (knowledge-wise), but had no real wisdom; he was an excellent bureaucrat and charismatic figure (like the Nazi Goering), who could convince anyone of nearly anything.  But he was, as you said, a bully  - and exceedingly devoted to the vision of the Empire (in ways that he thought were good, not unlike Maximus in Gladiator, where he declared to his emperor, &quot;Rome is the light...,&quot; seeing the rest of the dark, primitive world as ignoble and in need of an Empire to &#039;civilize&#039; it, even if that meant oppression (tho we never do get Maximus&#039; views on such matters, we&#039;d certainly have Vader&#039;s).

The love interest is with a Padme who is decidedly attracted to a &#039;bad boy&#039;, and who although she winds up leaving him for abuse (he is a bully, after all), she never tells him she&#039;s pregnant, tries to raise the children back on Nabu, but is impoverished by her having been ostracized by her family, and in the end relents to her family&#039;s wishes and gives the children up for adoption to Organa and his wife, and Veru and Lars, who originally were people of wealth and property, until hard times befell them on Tatooine.  (I&#039;m spelling everything wrong here, I know....&#039;not a good enuff SW geekazoid to recall how to remedy that, I&#039;m afraid.)

The film doesn&#039;t include all the mish-mash of Ep 1-3, and moves right into the whole encounter with Luke, Han, Leia, etc., and there&#039;s only ONE Death Star (orbiting the moon of Endore); there were Ewoks in it; etc.; Han&#039;s still initially a mercenary; Luke finds out about being Vader&#039;s kid; but because Luke has more training than Anakin, he is the greater warrior (tho Vader is more imposing, to be sure), and wins the battle between them, gets off the DS in time (as in Ret of the Jedi); and they have the big awards ceremony with Han, Luke, Chewie, et al, just like before.  The End.  (I woke up.)

Sorry this&#039;s so long, but &#039;just wanted to put my 2 cents in.  Cheers,  (Rev) Michael Hollingshead

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are superb ideas you&#8217;re floating for remakes.  Your definitions and depth of understanding of the nature of evil would make a seminary professor proud (in a good way).  The inclusion of ideas from V for V and the nazi connex&#8217;n is brilliant, I believe.  &#8216;Something&#8217; has to inspire the next generation of film-makers to include something of substance to these films.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; I actually had this dream one nite after having an online discussion with a friend about the whole SW-6 pkg.  Someone had remade the entire series into one 3.75 hr film, (with an Intermission, like the old David Leen (Zhivago; L&#8217; of Arabia; and DeMille Bible epics).</p>
<p>Anyway the entire film was in black and white, and very grainy, throughout.  The music was the same; the images suddenly cleared up as soon as they went into space (where everything was in color, oddly enough  &#8211; and again, these aren&#8217;t suggestions for the remakes &#8211; this was just my REM-sleep dream).</p>
<p>The film in my dream was simply called &#8220;Vader,&#8221; as my friend and I were talking about Lucas&#8217; original working title for SW was Star Wars: The Tragedy of Darth Vader; and begins with him barely crawlng up out of the edge of the lava river on Mustufar; having already had a suit of some sort on for protection against the lava (he was there for other reasons I don&#8217;t recall, now); but the molten liquid seeped through when he fell in.  He&#8217;s later rescued, and the mask is put on him.  When he is told he has to wear the suit, now, for life, he is beside himself with rage, and becomes a truly imposing figure, and asks formally to be given the name Vader, so as to forget his former life as Anakin Skywalker  &#8211; especially since that name was already given to him when he joined the Sith earlier, but was only a ceremonial name, (like at a baptism).  But he wants it for real, so-as to be all the more imposing.</p>
<p>Vader was seduced earlier; before the lava-river incident; not by fear of losing a loved one, but by his inordinate ambition combined with his already enhanced gifted skills.  He was smart (knowledge-wise), but had no real wisdom; he was an excellent bureaucrat and charismatic figure (like the Nazi Goering), who could convince anyone of nearly anything.  But he was, as you said, a bully  &#8211; and exceedingly devoted to the vision of the Empire (in ways that he thought were good, not unlike Maximus in Gladiator, where he declared to his emperor, &#8220;Rome is the light&#8230;,&#8221; seeing the rest of the dark, primitive world as ignoble and in need of an Empire to &#8216;civilize&#8217; it, even if that meant oppression (tho we never do get Maximus&#8217; views on such matters, we&#8217;d certainly have Vader&#8217;s).</p>
<p>The love interest is with a Padme who is decidedly attracted to a &#8216;bad boy&#8217;, and who although she winds up leaving him for abuse (he is a bully, after all), she never tells him she&#8217;s pregnant, tries to raise the children back on Nabu, but is impoverished by her having been ostracized by her family, and in the end relents to her family&#8217;s wishes and gives the children up for adoption to Organa and his wife, and Veru and Lars, who originally were people of wealth and property, until hard times befell them on Tatooine.  (I&#8217;m spelling everything wrong here, I know&#8230;.&#8217;not a good enuff SW geekazoid to recall how to remedy that, I&#8217;m afraid.)</p>
<p>The film doesn&#8217;t include all the mish-mash of Ep 1-3, and moves right into the whole encounter with Luke, Han, Leia, etc., and there&#8217;s only ONE Death Star (orbiting the moon of Endore); there were Ewoks in it; etc.; Han&#8217;s still initially a mercenary; Luke finds out about being Vader&#8217;s kid; but because Luke has more training than Anakin, he is the greater warrior (tho Vader is more imposing, to be sure), and wins the battle between them, gets off the DS in time (as in Ret of the Jedi); and they have the big awards ceremony with Han, Luke, Chewie, et al, just like before.  The End.  (I woke up.)</p>
<p>Sorry this&#8217;s so long, but &#8216;just wanted to put my 2 cents in.  Cheers,  (Rev) Michael Hollingshead</p>
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