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	<title>Comments on: How to upload all your old archived Email to Gmail from outlook, lotus notes, and Unix (pine)</title>
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		<title>By: Gareth Hills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gareth Hills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 01:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely superb post, Ben. I&#039;m moving my parents&#039; email from Outlook Express to Gmail, and this is exactly the solution that I needed. Great job :-)

In the unlikely event that someone (like me!) is using this method a full four years after it was posted, I thought I&#039;d just share my solution to the very same problem detailed above.
In a similar way, I&#039;d found that I was able to upload certain Mercury accounts to gmail but not others. Having redone everything, as suggested above, importing via POP into Gmail still refused to work. It finally occurred to me after a day of trying to work it out that the issue was the volume of the emails in the accounts in question.

Gmail&#039;s window for fetching mail via POP3 is limited to 15 seconds, I believe. I was uploading all of my emails from an aging, slow 2003-era HP, and the sheer quantity of email (over 7000 in the account in question) meant that the gmail mail fetcher timed-out before it could establish the quantity of the emails in the account. At least that&#039;s how it appeared to me.

So, the solution. I set up the accounts in Mercury, and added them to gmail as POP3 accounts BEFORE adding mail to them within Outlook Express. This way, Gmail was able to establish contact with the accounts, and get set up for POP transfer without exceeding the 15 second time-out window.

It is now 1.50am and I&#039;m finally uploading the misbehaving emails! Hope this is helpful.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely superb post, Ben. I&#8217;m moving my parents&#8217; email from Outlook Express to Gmail, and this is exactly the solution that I needed. Great job <img src='http://www.benshoemate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In the unlikely event that someone (like me!) is using this method a full four years after it was posted, I thought I&#8217;d just share my solution to the very same problem detailed above.<br />
In a similar way, I&#8217;d found that I was able to upload certain Mercury accounts to gmail but not others. Having redone everything, as suggested above, importing via POP into Gmail still refused to work. It finally occurred to me after a day of trying to work it out that the issue was the volume of the emails in the accounts in question.</p>
<p>Gmail&#8217;s window for fetching mail via POP3 is limited to 15 seconds, I believe. I was uploading all of my emails from an aging, slow 2003-era HP, and the sheer quantity of email (over 7000 in the account in question) meant that the gmail mail fetcher timed-out before it could establish the quantity of the emails in the account. At least that&#8217;s how it appeared to me.</p>
<p>So, the solution. I set up the accounts in Mercury, and added them to gmail as POP3 accounts BEFORE adding mail to them within Outlook Express. This way, Gmail was able to establish contact with the accounts, and get set up for POP transfer without exceeding the 15 second time-out window.</p>
<p>It is now 1.50am and I&#8217;m finally uploading the misbehaving emails! Hope this is helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks ben, will try it. i don&#039;t find any link to thunderbird new screens. pls could u help me out here. 

regards </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks ben, will try it. i don&#8217;t find any link to thunderbird new screens. pls could u help me out here. </p>
<p>regards</p>
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		<title>By: benshoemate</title>
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		<dc:creator>benshoemate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try this link to download mercury - http://www.pmail.com/downloads.htm The screens for Thunderbird might have changed - here is the help for setting up thunderbird to ANY email server (including Mercury - the one you will install locally on you PC)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this link to download mercury &#8211; <a href="http://www.pmail.com/downloads.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pmail.com/downloads.htm</a> The screens for Thunderbird might have changed &#8211; here is the help for setting up thunderbird to ANY email server (including Mercury &#8211; the one you will install locally on you PC)</p>
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		<title>By: Jani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 15:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi.thanks for hte tutorial but i&#039;m having following problems:

-can&#039;t download mercury email server
- have installed thunderbird, but whtn i go to Tools-? Accunt Settings, the windows that opens is quite different then yours. It opens a window which says &quot;Outgoing Server (SMTP) Settings and not the one which is shown in your tut.

Please help :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi.thanks for hte tutorial but i&#8217;m having following problems:</p>
<p>-can&#8217;t download mercury email server<br />
- have installed thunderbird, but whtn i go to Tools-? Accunt Settings, the windows that opens is quite different then yours. It opens a window which says &#8220;Outgoing Server (SMTP) Settings and not the one which is shown in your tut.</p>
<p>Please help <img src='http://www.benshoemate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: security shield 2011 virus</title>
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		<dc:creator>security shield 2011 virus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 03:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are a life saver!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are a life saver!</p>
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		<title>By: eb</title>
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		<dc:creator>eb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 08:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ben,

No spam
No thredded view
No read-unread issue
No wrong count
I have already got rid of mercury. can&#039;t check logs.

however here is a more interesting thing...

One of the mail accounts that I was transferring to gmail was a Yahoo small business account. (And this folder was the problematic one I wrote about above) I yesterday have learned that I really don&#039;t need your post to transfer those mails to my gmail account. So yesterday, I have just set up pop3 for that and waited till it downloads all mails for me. I was expecting 10324 mails to be transferred. However it did not do that. I think there is a script in gmail that doesn&#039;t let identical mails to be downloaded 2 times. So althoug it claims to have downloaded 10324 mails only 645 was downloaded. This is strange huh? (I was expecting only the missing ones to be downloaded, I mean 234 mails) I randomly checked mails if they exist in gmail and they do. And those 645 late comers? I really don&#039;t know why they weren&#039;t there the first time.

Things get complicated now. But I&#039;m done with this, because I have now 411 extra mails! :) better more than lacking huh?

Thank you for your support. I wish I could be helpful for you to improve this post by solving the issue but I can&#039;t, and I won&#039;t try any further.

Take care.
eb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben,</p>
<p>No spam<br />
No thredded view<br />
No read-unread issue<br />
No wrong count<br />
I have already got rid of mercury. can&#8217;t check logs.</p>
<p>however here is a more interesting thing&#8230;</p>
<p>One of the mail accounts that I was transferring to gmail was a Yahoo small business account. (And this folder was the problematic one I wrote about above) I yesterday have learned that I really don&#8217;t need your post to transfer those mails to my gmail account. So yesterday, I have just set up pop3 for that and waited till it downloads all mails for me. I was expecting 10324 mails to be transferred. However it did not do that. I think there is a script in gmail that doesn&#8217;t let identical mails to be downloaded 2 times. So althoug it claims to have downloaded 10324 mails only 645 was downloaded. This is strange huh? (I was expecting only the missing ones to be downloaded, I mean 234 mails) I randomly checked mails if they exist in gmail and they do. And those 645 late comers? I really don&#8217;t know why they weren&#8217;t there the first time.</p>
<p>Things get complicated now. But I&#8217;m done with this, because I have now 411 extra mails! <img src='http://www.benshoemate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  better more than lacking huh?</p>
<p>Thank you for your support. I wish I could be helpful for you to improve this post by solving the issue but I can&#8217;t, and I won&#8217;t try any further.</p>
<p>Take care.<br />
eb</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Pepelis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Pepelis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 04:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(unknown sender) one problem that you will see going from Outlook from an older exchange server set up is that there will be (unknown sender) all over the place.  The reason is: 
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=30b8b45b0d13e15d&amp;hl=en

if you look at the headers for gmail, it only looks at one field.  Clients like Outlook/thunderbird will decode multiple places Sent from, Sender, Return Path, From, etc... Gmail web will not do that. it will just show (unknown sender), but you will be able to search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(unknown sender) one problem that you will see going from Outlook from an older exchange server set up is that there will be (unknown sender) all over the place.  The reason is:<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=30b8b45b0d13e15d&#038;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=30b8b45b0d13e15d&#038;hl=en</a></p>
<p>if you look at the headers for gmail, it only looks at one field.  Clients like Outlook/thunderbird will decode multiple places Sent from, Sender, Return Path, From, etc&#8230; Gmail web will not do that. it will just show (unknown sender), but you will be able to search.</p>
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		<title>By: benshoemate</title>
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		<dc:creator>benshoemate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also saw this problem from really old messages that were corrupt of mal-formed. They we&#039;re either missing a date, or orginally they were internal mail without a valid email address or some other strange data that corrupted it, or double check the following

- Spam folder - double check - I had some that went into spam locally and in gmail
- Consolidated into conversations: remember - gmail counts replies and replies to replies as one conversation thread - you said you had this turned off but double check
- Marked as read - Gmail only shows items that are unread
- The count is just wrong. Do a manual count (I had to do this also) - set it to show 100 items per page, go to the last page and count how many are on that page (if your on page 104 and see 24 email then you have all 10324)
- Check the count locally.
- Check your logs in Mercury.

That&#039;s all I can think of...let me know what you determine the problem is. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also saw this problem from really old messages that were corrupt of mal-formed. They we&#8217;re either missing a date, or orginally they were internal mail without a valid email address or some other strange data that corrupted it, or double check the following</p>
<p>- Spam folder &#8211; double check &#8211; I had some that went into spam locally and in gmail<br />
- Consolidated into conversations: remember &#8211; gmail counts replies and replies to replies as one conversation thread &#8211; you said you had this turned off but double check<br />
- Marked as read &#8211; Gmail only shows items that are unread<br />
- The count is just wrong. Do a manual count (I had to do this also) &#8211; set it to show 100 items per page, go to the last page and count how many are on that page (if your on page 104 and see 24 email then you have all 10324)<br />
- Check the count locally.<br />
- Check your logs in Mercury.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all I can think of&#8230;let me know what you determine the problem is.<br />
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		<title>By: eb</title>
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		<dc:creator>eb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ben

Thank you for this post. I have just finished uploading my 15.000 mails to my gmail account as you have described it. I have done it in 4 seperate folders. The last one has just finished uploading 10 minutes before... But I have a question. When I select all mails in that specific folder in thunderbird, I see that it contains exactly 10324 mails, however I just see 10090 mails in gmail now.

1 - I am certainly sure that the process is over.
2 - My router IP never changed. It is exactly the same number now when it was at the beginning.
3 - all of the mails are tagged so it is impossible for them to be under another tag
4 - I checked spam tag during the process, and transferred such unlucy ones back to where they belong
5 - the thredded view option of gmail is off, so I see the real number of mails.

The folder before this one was also problematic. However in that case I had a couple hundred MORE emails than expected! So it was not problematic at all. :) What may be the problem do you think? Or is there a problem?

Thank you.
eb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben</p>
<p>Thank you for this post. I have just finished uploading my 15.000 mails to my gmail account as you have described it. I have done it in 4 seperate folders. The last one has just finished uploading 10 minutes before&#8230; But I have a question. When I select all mails in that specific folder in thunderbird, I see that it contains exactly 10324 mails, however I just see 10090 mails in gmail now.</p>
<p>1 &#8211; I am certainly sure that the process is over.<br />
2 &#8211; My router IP never changed. It is exactly the same number now when it was at the beginning.<br />
3 &#8211; all of the mails are tagged so it is impossible for them to be under another tag<br />
4 &#8211; I checked spam tag during the process, and transferred such unlucy ones back to where they belong<br />
5 &#8211; the thredded view option of gmail is off, so I see the real number of mails.</p>
<p>The folder before this one was also problematic. However in that case I had a couple hundred MORE emails than expected! So it was not problematic at all. <img src='http://www.benshoemate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  What may be the problem do you think? Or is there a problem?</p>
<p>Thank you.<br />
eb</p>
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		<title>By: benshoemate</title>
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		<dc:creator>benshoemate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have emails all the way back to 1996 in gmail today using the method in this post. I tested it again a few months ago and it still worked. In a nutshell: 
Set up local email server
IMAP from outlook to local
In outlook, Drag all those emails over to the IMAP local drive
Go to gmail and tell it to connect to the local drive

There are a lot of things that can go wrong in the above steps, mostly firewalls and such, but it works. 
Ben Shoemate
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CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. In other words, be nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have emails all the way back to 1996 in gmail today using the method in this post. I tested it again a few months ago and it still worked. In a nutshell:<br />
Set up local email server<br />
IMAP from outlook to local<br />
In outlook, Drag all those emails over to the IMAP local drive<br />
Go to gmail and tell it to connect to the local drive</p>
<p>There are a lot of things that can go wrong in the above steps, mostly firewalls and such, but it works.<br />
Ben Shoemate<br />
Enterprise Web User Experience<br />
Office: +1 (713) 893 8555<br />
Mobile: +1 (214) 417 6319<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:ben.shoemate@base22.com">ben.shoemate@base22.com</a><br />
Skype: ben.shoemate<br />
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. In other words, be nice.</p>
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